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GPS which one?
Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 22:18
ozzymac
Hi again,
I have been getting such good info from my postings I thought I would try another.
I am taking a laptop with us in our campervan to use as a TV and I am also interested in using a GPS system with it with associated mapping software etc.
My question is anyone got any ideas on the best priced GPS that would be suitable for this purpose. I saw one on here that plugged straight into the PC card clot for only approx $190.
Has anyone had any experience with this sort of GPS system?
Or has anyone used there laptop with a GPS for mapping purposes, if so was it succesful?
Cheers
Craig
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AnswerID: 86894 Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 01, 2004 at 23:09
Utemad
replied: I use an Etrex Legend wth my laptop. If you plug it into your laptop then any unit will give your laptop the required info but not all of them have a data cable option. Mine works well but next time I would get one that has an external antenna.
I've no experience with the pcmcia slot ones you mention.
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AnswerID: 86900 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:00
Pilbara Wayne
replied: I've got a Garmin Etrex that I use with OziExplorer Software. It has the data cable and a 12V cable in one unit. As it is mounted near the A pillar of my Nissan it sometimes suffered drop outs, so I installed a re-readiating antenna. On a recent drive from Hedland to
Karratha
it was no less than 6m accurate. I use this system often as the tracks here in the
Pilbara
are marked nicely on the maps, but are a damn site harder to find on the ground when the spinifex is long and the tracks have faded.
Advantage of a separate hand held GPS is that you can take it away from the car with you and not have to carry the laptop. I use 2 AA rechargables in mine and keep a couple of spares recharged. The 12V input doesn't charge the batteries, but that isn't a big hassle for me.
If you go this way, just make sure that the GPS does have the connection facility. Some such as the Geko 101 dont. Also if your laptop doesnt have a serial port then you might need a serial to USB adapter.
Hope this info is useful.
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FollowupID: 345511 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:20
Moneypit posted:
GPS Hedland to
Karratha
...........Gentle tip.
As you turn out of Hedland make it a left. Follow that big grey thing that's not very wide but is real long. Its easy to see, its got dots in the middle.
Follow that grey thing for about 222 kilometres and you'll see another not very wide but long grey thing to the right side of your car. Make your car follow that piece of grey and when you see all those buildings in front of you...............thats
Karratha
.
And if you follow those you'll be more accurate that 6 metres. You'll be exacty there.
I'm sorry...........I hope that comes across as humour
Just as another point, as you travel down that long grey piece but just before you go round the right hand corner before the Turner River Bridge [going to
Karratha
] have a look in your rear vison mirror. You'll see the blue
water tank
momentarily in the mirror and then you get the best view of Hedland -- it disappears from view!!
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FollowupID: 345512 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:29
Pilbara Wayne posted:
Yeah.. the road did get in the way a bit every now and then. I thougth the GPS was supposed to be more accurate!!!!!
I was just testing it out to see how accurate it would be, as some of the
places
I've tried to find in our more remote areas(ie not a track in sight) have proved a bit elusive. I've even tried looking out the window and getting out for a walk and a look, but cant stay out of the airconditioning for too long. Often makes me wonder how the old time prospectors managed to get anywhere up here.
Better views along this stretch of road include the front bar at the Whim Creek Pub.. beats the blue
water tank
hands down. Unfortunately at night you can still see the lights of Hedland in the distance from the Turner River, so you know you're not quite far enough away.
Oh and if you think
Karratha
is just the INDUSTRIAL area that you can see on the right, then you'd better go and have a better look.
Also sent in a humorous tone. :-)
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FollowupID: 345555 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:36
Utemad posted:
Wayne,
Do you have a website for this reradiatng antenna you have?
Does it work the same way mobile phone car kit antennas work these days? As in no physical connection but just a close proximity/touching connection.
I'd be very interested to find out more.
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FollowupID: 345588 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:33
Mad Dog (Victoria) posted:
Utemad, Check the
shop
here, I'm not sure if the sell them or not but gpsoz do. I picked up a holux on ebay sometime ago for a very reasonable price, I see there's a garmin on there now for $80 but still 6 days to go. Yes there is no physical connection to the gps, put the antenna on the roof or wherever, supply it with 12 volts and put the small re-radiating antenna somewhere near the gps.....do they work?...yes..very bloody well
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FollowupID: 345628 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 13:43
Utemad posted:
Thanks Wayne and Mad Dog. I'll be on the
lookout
for one of these now I am aware of them. I checked out the Ebay one and will keep an eye on it.
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FollowupID: 345705 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 18:41
Pilbara Wayne posted:
Utemad
I bought mine off Ebay. Its a Magellan unit and works exactly as Mad Dog says. I have my Etrex mouted in a modified mobile phone holder and have the small re-radiating antenna fixed to the back of it with some velcro. The GPS and antenna are only a centimetre or so apart. Cables run under the dash mat so no uglies all over the dash near the driver.
I like the fact my GPS works better all the time now.
Cant access Ebay at the moment... stupid proxy (poxy??) server at work gives me error messages. But I do remember I bought it from GFCorica? who is located in
Perth
. It arrived quickly and was packaged well. I noticed he advertised another one after I had purchased mine, so he probably has quite a few. If he's the seller I recommend him.
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FollowupID: 345713 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 19:06
Utemad posted:
Thanks Wayne. That's the same guy who's auctioning the Garmin one I'm currently watching. He has a heap of other GPS stuff for auction too.
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FollowupID: 347744 Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 15, 2004 at 13:13
Utemad posted:
Hi guys,
I just had my reradiating antenna arrive in the mail. Not the one that was mentioned above but this one instead.
I bought the GARTX + GAST3X which just has a newer smaller antenna with a MCX connection should I ever upgrade my GPS.
It runs off 3xAA batteries so it is more easily transferable between my different cars and hobbies etc.
I tested it here at work. We have those steel shipping containers for sheds. So I sat in one of them (friggin HOT) with my GPS on 0 satellites and put the antenna out the door at full reach of the cable. I then switched on the module and almost instant 4 metre accuracy then switched off the module and almost instant no reception.
This model has to have the wire touching the unit like a mobile phone antenna. Not up to 45cm away like the other units can. In fact for a few grand you can get one of the suckers that will do an entire aircraft hangar so you can test plane
GPS units
without having to take it outside!
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AnswerID: 86902 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:26
Moneypit
replied: Ozzymac,
I went the whole hog and brought a top of the wazza Garmin 176C - About 2K by the time I got the Bluecharts and Landmaps.
If I had known then what I know now a Garmin Etrek or Legend or 12 was more than enough if you have the laptop. I could have got a new lappie and the gps for what I paid for a gps that is now really only an information provider for the laptop.
I've done the round Oz bit since I got it but found that programs like Oziexplorer in the laptop, coupled with the Hema Road Map spiral booklet were more often the preferred programs.
Moneypit
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AnswerID: 86904 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:31
ExplorOz Team - David
replied: If you have not already seen it have a look at these Digital
Navigation
articles. We travel with several GPS all the time and as stated before if you are going the laptop or PDA approach then get a GPS that will supply the data to the laptop or PDA and invest your money in the software and mapping.
FYI: We are still adding a whole heap of GPS products onto the system over the next few days so keep an eye on the new products coming along. However a Mouse GPS and Laptop with OziExplorer and NatMap 250K maps will cover most of your mapping requirements.
Good luck and if you need any help please give us a call or email.
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AnswerID: 86908 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:08
Member - Brian (Gold Coast)
replied: Another one to check out is the Magellan ... we just bought the Magellan Gold Travellers pack... and are very happy with it... heaps of features, portable, PC connectivity, in-car cable, basic mapping software that can be expanded upon. Still learning how to use it but very happy with it thus far!
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FollowupID: 345551 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:26
madcow posted:
g'day Brian, how much was that pack? It is advertised here for $899.00 at the moment.
cheers
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FollowupID: 345702 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 18:20
Member - Nick (TAS) posted:
Got a Meridian Colour and with SD cards loaded with areas travelling its great.So far we've found the Disc. Aus CD really accurate.I bought it of E BAY(GPS) for $540 brand new.
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FollowupID: 345756 Submitted: Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 06:22
madcow posted:
Sounds like a pretty good price. I'll just have to keep an eye out!
Cheers
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FollowupID: 346205 Submitted: Monday, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:37
Member - Brian (Gold Coast) posted:
Madcow
Yeah, we paid $900 for it locally, but am very happy with it. Nick obviously got his cheaper and I was thinking yesterday on the way back from
Sydney
that the colour may have been a better choice. But overall, a very good unit. The Nav screens are "Customisable" so you can view what info you want, the map is accurate enough for me! And the route we planned for the weekend jaunt we just did was spot on! (This was only my second attempt at plotting a route and this one was to an unfamiliar area where we only had an address to "get to". The route took us there exactly!!) Ours came with a 128meg SD card, and our digital camera works on sd cards as well, so we'll always have a couple of spare cards anyway!
I believe there is an updated more "info" version of DiscoverAus CD out soon, so it may be worth keeping an eye out for that as well.
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FollowupID: 346206 Submitted: Monday, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:43
madcow posted:
I have heard pretty good reports about them and will have to keep saving the stubby tops!!
cheers Dave
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AnswerID: 86916 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:06
David Au
replied: It is difficult to impossible to use your laptop full time in the car, a mapping GPS with a good range of features is overall a better choice for use in conjunction with your laptop.
GPSMAP76 http://www.ja-gps.com.au/gpsprod_gpsmap76.html
http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap76/ will cover all your
bases for $517.00.
http://
shop
.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010%2D10306%2D00 - not cheap, but they do work well.
A PC Card slot GPS would be mighty limiting and you would need to fit an external aerial to get good reception.
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AnswerID: 86937 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 09:41
Austravel
replied: I'm still wondering if this is just another toy for most people. Sure there are instances that I can imagine a GPS would help especially if traveling totally off road. I've never needed one, just used very basic maps and no dramas to travel around the cape, gulf,
simpson desert
, east and west Macdonalds etc. Please correct me if I'm wrong as eventually I'll be heading off on longer trips but to date I can see that they would be just another toy. Not a bad thing mind you but just another expense and something to be stolen or damage.
Let me know if I'm wrong.
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FollowupID: 345580 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:13
Footloose posted:
I used to have similar thoughts. But some remote tracks that GPS readings are availiable for are often overgrown and difficult to find and follow. (On this side of the beach try the Stones Crossing track after the fires etc ) Many have shot lines and detours etc put in since the map was produced and it's "nice" to know you've chosen the right track. Another use is for the "are we there yet" crowd. It's important to know just how far away civilization is when deciding to walk or stay with the vehicle. No, not just an expensive toy.
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FollowupID: 345587 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:31
Austravel posted:
I guess I'll eventually get one just to date haven't found I've missed not haveing one. Guess that's the same with most gear though.
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AnswerID: 86952 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:25
howie
replied: when you get tired of having the laptop on your lap, oohhing and arring at the little arrow that tells you which way your going,you will realise that unless the laptop is fitted properly its a pain in the asre.
also, with the modern gps, they have better and uploadable maps than mine (garmin III) which can be dash mounted. most roads are on these maps.
however, my laptop comes out occasionally when traversing unknown/unmapped areas and is great.
if you insist on the laptop, get a combined external aerial/receiver.
external aerial is definitely the way to go (whichever way you go).
my dream- 1) external aerial/receiver
2) in-dash dvd screen with vga input
3) laptop or mini pc secreted somewhere with all maps/software
4) small cheap gps for walks
5) one more powerball
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AnswerID: 86957 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:41
Footloose
replied: For me a GPS is a bit like a
fridge
. I've travelled for 30 years without both. However I figure that I can travel more comfortably with them than without them, like coil
suspension
. Perhaps its a function of getting older. I suppose next thing will be a 4wd trailer thingy so that I dont have to make and break camp in the cold and wet ... :)))))
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FollowupID: 345745 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 22:50
Member - Maurice F (WA) posted:
I am gong to install a GPS linked to a Laptop with ozyexplorer , my question has anyone come up with a bracket to sit the laptop in on passenger side of a GU 4.2tdi ST without passenger side airbag
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FollowupID: 345747 Submitted: Thursday, Dec 02, 2004 at 22:50
Member - Maurice F (WA) posted:
I am gong to install a GPS linked to a Laptop with ozyexplorer , my question has anyone come up with a bracket to sit the laptop in on passenger side of a GU 4.2tdi ST without passenger side airbag
Maurie
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FollowupID: 345830 Submitted: Friday, Dec 03, 2004 at 11:36
howie posted:
there is a firm called "ram mounts" which supply a big range of mounts. there is a yacht supply
shop
in oxford close in leederville that supplies them.was toying with this idea for a while.
just seen that gpsoz has them as well.
www.ram-mount.com
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AnswerID: 87408 Submitted: Monday, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:52
Member - Brian (Gold Coast)
replied: I've just bought my first GPS, a Magellan Gold travellers Pack. This weekend just gone we had to drive down to Bateau Bay, near
Sydney
to an area I am unfamiliar with, so I made a route on the mapping software and uploaded it onto the gps and voila! Followed the alarms to where we had to go. Very accurate indeed. On the way home I experimented more with it, changing between Nav screens and customising screens so the info I wanted to view was accessible when I wanted it. I also had a think about mounting a laptop in the car somewhere.... but came to the conclusion that the gps does enough for me on it's own without having to worry mounting a laptop somewhere. So then I realized that I could download track info etc "after-hours" to the laptop, and save some cabin space!
Just a thought!
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AnswerID: 87660 Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 19:19
Niko
replied: RAM Mounts are definitely the way to go. ExplorOz are now RAM Mount dealers, thus can supply you any RAM Mount as can be found at www.ram-mount.com
Email them what you want and I am sure ExplorOz can assist you. You will find their prices reasonable.
With regard to choosing an external GPS device, the concept of using a Garmin Etrex or a CF Card/USB/Bluetooth GPS plus a re-radiating antenna is never go to die. However, the Holux and GlobalSat CF Cards displayed here includes the CF to PCMCIA Adapter (For when you may want to use in a Laptop that only have PCMCIA socket/drive) and the external Antenna with a magnetic base plus a little suction clip for the cable.
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FollowupID: 346516 Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 07, 2004 at 23:24
Member - Mungo Explorer (NSW) posted:
I have my Garmin 72 stuck to the windscreen with a RAM mount arm and suction cup. Very good position just to the right of steering wheel, and good reception without external aerial. Solid as a rock (provided windscreen is clean) even on rough tracks. Ordered from US a few months ago.
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