Member - Ray posted:

Tried the Tyrepliers and I reckon they are just not up to scratch.ie Too much Bloody hard work for a bloke with a sus back. Had a set of Beadbreakers bought for me and it makes the job almost enjoyable.

D-Jack posted:

What the hell's that got to do with my question?

D-Jack posted:

What the hell's that got to do with the question?

D-Jack posted:

What the hell's that got to do with my question?

Davoe posted:

done over 30 tyres in the last 12 months using tyre pliers and it is not hard toughen up! and no it has nothing to do with your Q

Member - Geoff M (NSW) posted:

D-Jack,
Once you've broken the bead, the inner and outer beads need to be positioned into the well on the rim. A little hard to put into words, but easy to demonstrate.
Same principle for any well based rim, pushbike, motorbike, car, 4WD etc.
Once you've got the beads into the well, the rim will darn near fall ot through the hole. If you stand the tyre up, you'll have a big gap between the top of the rim and the tyre.
That's where you start, only take on one bead at a time.

Hope I've not confused you too much,
Geoff.

theshadows posted:

wrong tool D-jack.
you got to use the right tool for the job and tyre pliers are the wrong tool. All you need Is one decent tyre lever and a very large rubber mallet.

Stand the rim up on end.

As stated above place the tyre in the well of the rim and stnad so the tyre is between you and the rim.

Hook the lever in to the tyre from the rim side.

pull the lever up and over toward you and press down. {the lever should have travelled about 200 degrees.

Holding the lever down with one hand belt the tyre off the rim one hit each side.

Two good belts {one if your really good} and the rim bounces out down the road and over the cliff and you holding the stuffed tyre in your knees. such is life get used to it.

this is the quickest and easist way to remove a tyre . if you cannot do it this way due to a bad back ,Id like to surgst that you coulnd get the tyre of the high mount carrier in the first place ...so go away.

its a case of th wrong tool for the job use the pliers as intended to pull the carcass apart to fit a patch.

shadow

D-Jack posted:

shadow

Don't have a clue what your talking about. I used the tyre pliers to break the bead, no problems, broke 2 beads no problemgot first bead off no probs, but to actually get the whole tyre off that's the problem. Did not use the tyrepliers to do that (if that's what you are thinking) and did exactly what u said. . As for wrong tool for the job, well if tyrepliers aren't meant for breaking beads and levers aren't for getting off tyres then I guess its time for me to retire from 4wding.

theshadows posted:

those instructions are just what you asked for.... re again carefully.
those instructions are to remove the body{carcass} of the tyre from the rim.

as stated you need One tyre lever ,one very large rubber mallet , one big hit {if you are skilled.}

AS you said the tyre pliers do a great job at breacking the beads and removing one side off the carcass off the Tyres but thats all.

follow my instruction and you can remove a 22.5r from a semi in under 15 secs. and 4WD tyre quicker.

shadow

D-Jack posted:

Shadow, I understand what you are saying but don't know why you started having a go at me for using the wrong tools? I am a little annoyed because of the unneeded crap about other products doing better. Breaking the bead was not the problem, the levering etc was. Thanks for your advice

D-Jack

theshadows posted:

I'm very passonate about the right tool for the job ..I do disslike seeing peopl uing the wrong tool, tehn complaining about it. There is noting wrong with tyre pliers...As you have found out they do their job very well. .

I'm not haveing a go at you but just explaining the right tool for the job the better. these days there are soo many trinkets on the market people lose sight of te job at hand.

for example. I carry 2 square blocks of wood ? why?

they old my tent{ A frame} up in sand,work great as chocks, extentions for my bottle jacks and pop over and under the bead of a tyre you can pop the bead as you drive over them. beats the hell out over other gadgets. te rubber mallet is the best piece of equipment Ive ever carried.

ligthn up and enjoy because thats what this forum here for to share Ideas...life to short to get hung up...

shadow

Member - John (Vic) posted:

"The beadbreaker may be easier but where do you sit the tyre if you have barn doors ?"

On a table, on the ground if you want to bend over, rest it on the bonnet if you like.

That the point of the R & R is that you don't need to stand on it or hit it just wind it down with the spanner and it falls off. Easy as.

Footloose posted:

So you can end up bending over even with a beadbraker. And with a split you still have to remove the rim etc etc , all of which you're bending over with; unless you are dropping 30kg on the tailgate/table/bonnet.
Sorry, I still can't see a good reason to ditch the pliars and buy a beadbraker.

Member - John (Vic) posted:

Footloose when you see the Beadbreaker in action you will see what I mean. No standing on the tyre no bashing with a hammer so little effort.

It will break the bead with one hand and get the tyre of the rim without a mallet and no rim or bead damage.

Me I have used mine on a table where I can keep my back nice and straight and no effort at all.

I have used pliers and now own a Beadbreaker I would never go back to pliers again.

I would suggest you make the attempt to have a good look at how they work and in fact try them for yourself before you knock the product.

D-Jack posted:

Eric

I am not annoyed at valid answers or attempts at answers to the question like yours is - just annoyed that when I asked how to remove the tyre I got a few bead breakers are better than what you paid $150 for.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I took the tyre off the rear, the well is closer to the front than back. Made all the difference. Thanks heaps.

Thanks also to all those who replied. Most of them helped.

D-Jack

D-Jack posted:

Thanks Bibo - had been taking it off the wrong way. And the lever and mallet took the tyre of easily. Was easy peasy the first time I did it the correct way in fact.

Thanks, D-Jack